It's not God who changes His mind....it's the organization that is trying to take every scripture and understand it from a fundamental viewpoint and make it apply to the goings on of today. I honestly do not think that we as humans will ever completely know exactly what some scripture may refer to. JW's, as with many religions, try to make a scripture apply to whatever they want it to. Which is not hard to do. Views change with changing generations and the passing of time. What was thought of scriptures 10, 20, 20, 30, 40, 50 + years ago has changed. Hell JW's used to smoke and celebrate holidays! And there is nothing mentioned in the bible about either one, although we know these holdiays did not even exist in bible times and smoking is considered a defilement of the flesh. But my point is that with time comes change. We change. God does not nor does he have to. We are the humans and he created us. We have to figure out the rest.
Vegas Girl
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If a scripture can be shown that Jehovah God "changes" his mind then are we to believe anything he says in the bible?
by booker-t ini have always been taught that jehovah god never changes his mind and he always carries out what he predicts.
then a friend of mine who is atheist showed me a scripture in the bible that caught me totally off guard.
it is in the book of jeremiah.
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Shunning supported by 2 Jo 9-10
by Splash in(2 john 9,10) 9 everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the christ does not have god.
he that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the father and the son.
10 if anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.. .
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Vegas Girl
Intersting points. DF'ing is something I was never comfortable with. I remember as a kid my mom holding my hand and pulling me away from the DF'd person in the KH and whispering "you can't talk to her" It seemed to weird to me to pretend that someone who was standing in my midst suddenly did not exist. I will say that I don't disagree with keeping a congregation clean, you don't want it to become a free-for-all. But I am not so sure that it is the DF'ing that makes a person sorry or the actual sin that may have been committed from a JW viewpoint. I think most people fear DF because is immobilizes you socially. I mean if you are out having an affair and committing gross sin, I don't think most people would approve of such behavior and would thus prob choose not to hang out with that person. They may see them on the street and say Hi but that is about it. I don't think JW's give "worldly" people enough credit for being moral and decent people. Who says that you have to shun someone in order to reach their heart?? I think it is the fear of being DF that makes people sorry, not the actual sin in itself. Just my 2 cents
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Any Elders comments on latest idea about Sisters
by truthlover injust finished our 2 day and one of the talks by the do indicated that single sisters in the congregation are to be subservient to all male brothers in the hall..as well a widow too is of the same "status".
is this a new thought or just now an open secret?.
personally, i dont think that is good - after all there are many elders who although, supposedly appointed by hs, can be personally involved with porn behind closed doors or nasty with his wife and family.. i personally know of two like that .... why should i listen to a "stranger" about my life?
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Vegas Girl
I have never heard that.....wow...I mean in general I feel women in JW's are pretty much to stay subservient anyway. Not any new news really.
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Disgusting
by Vegas Girl ini was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.
i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.
this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.
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Vegas Girl
I guess I should not be suprised.....this is SOP for Witnesses. Everything boils down to what is going on between your legs with them anyway....pathetic
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Your LEGAL RIGHTS at the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inwe all know that the society treats us as door mats and we left our rights as christians behind when we got baptized ,but each congragation in britain is registered as an autononous charity ,so you and i the rank and file we contribute towards these charities .does this gives us any rights in the eyes of the law ?
i had a chat with a solicitor and he said you might have but he needs to see first the constitution .the question is : i pressume that this constitution is the same in all british congagations and drafted from the brilliant minds of the watchtower leagal department .does anyone have a copy of a constitution ?
has anyone ever looked into it ?
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Vegas Girl
As a JW you leave your "worldly" rights at the door. Sad but true. They don't recognize your rights unless it's to promote the preaching work. Then they will be all up in yo shizzit......LOLOL
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Disgusting
by Vegas Girl ini was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.
i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.
this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.
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Vegas Girl
Oh you know what? I just realized I posted this in the wrong place. My apologies.
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Disgusting
by Vegas Girl ini was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.
i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.
this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.
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Vegas Girl
I was reading the Find Whitney Heichel page of FB and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in Oregon (non-JW) Well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly JW's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault. I can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of Whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not JW somehow now they attach fault to her going missing. This is exactly why I can't deal with JW's. They are so locked in their world and belief that they are so much better than the rest of us that they can't even be compassionate. Now in all fairness most of the comments made are very kind. But it goes to show me that they are willing to take the the help from the community when it affects them but yet this "worldly" girl is missing and they immediately go on the attack of her past. Unbelievable.
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Oregon Jehovah's Witness Rapes and Murders Jehovah's Witness neighbor. The congregation a spiritual paradise..where lambs and lions are at peace?
by Balaamsass inthe northern california circuit overseers been making announcements at circuit assemblies for sisters to be extra careful when shopping and out and about..."remember we are surrounded by satan's system.
" this has been been in reference to a young sister who went missing in the portland or area.
well now the whole story is comming out...she wasn't a victim of "the outsiders"...it was her "spiritual brother" who raped and murdered her.
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Vegas Girl
You know the thing to remember is that no one is immune from crime. Sexual predators are in all walks of life, yes even Witnesses. The reason it is so shocking is that Witnesses see themselves as larger than life and as a JW you begin to get a false sense of security that "my brother would never harm me" "we are Jehovah's people" We all need to be vigilant when it comes to our safety, regardless of what religion we are affiliated with.
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